"When Chuck Smith died, there was nothing left to hold back all the competing factions," church critic Michael Newnham says. Hopefully cooler heads prevail. Reading Paiges comments really brought home for me the absolute horror for the wife of a pastor who falls in such a big way. And aside from that she was not making millions telling others not to do like wise. He can immediately be restored to God. Embrace him. Just so you know 80% of the Church worldwide holds this position except in American Pop Evangelicalism. 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD. The duration of absence from leadership should be commensurate with the size of the flock he shepherded and the duration of the corruption. God knew from the beginning who would choose him or not choose him and based on what mans choice would be God chose man so predestination is mentioned but its according to his foreknowledge that he chose us as it clearly states in 1Peter 1:2. "People were really, really hurt," says Colleen Healy, a Broward resident who began following Coy in 1995. Someone else may have more info on this subject. That said, of course we all pray for his restoration to God, for his marriage, his family and those of you who entrusted yourself to his leadership. My parents are Catholic believers. The church finds her visible, yet imperfect, expression in local congregations where the Word of God is preached in its purity and the sacraments are administered in their integrity; where scriptural discipline is practiced, and where loving fellowship is maintained. I have sympathy for this man (and especially his innocent family) because the Lord is instructing me in compassion, I also know that it has taken many years for my family to recover from the harm and hypocrisy of the leadership of this church under the helm of this man. What Happened to Aunt Diane? You made a freshman mistake. Nothing special about me, only the strength the Lord provided. He was already richI, Ive seen people get black balled by him..now the shoe is on the other foot , Id like to know how long this s.. went on and the people who knew said nothing out of fear of losing their job. One too many run-on sentences of ignorance for me today. However, keep in mind that Coy would sue me into oblivion if I was wrong. Not only is he a humble man for someone who held that position for so long but pride does not throw you into that kind of sin, its if anything, coveting what is not yours that does. Dustyno issues, sishugs right back to you. You mean like Jesus was a bull in a china shop and came in and turned over the money changers and made a whip and judged that which did not belong in the house of God, just like these false doctrines that contradict Gods word, do not belong in the church of God, dead doctrines that reveal themselves in the festering fruit, Ive been to these reformed churches Calvanist churches, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Reformed Episcopalian, etc, and for the most part are stiff with doctrinal rigor mortis, so its readily apparent why Satan has injected these doctrines early on into the church, as you see the ineffectual fruit if produces. As a supportive friend, I have questions, too.. Whatever happened to preaching The Bible, and not ones own brand of The Gospel? What's even weirder is that a bunch of basically identical articles about her that state it was a rumor prior to the series dropping but now is "debunked due to her being in the series" which makes zero sense since people can die after filming an interview and just shows they didn't watch the series. In his 1973 senior class portrait, his dark hair, parted neatly down the middle, hangs well past his shoulders. Are we to perform a witch hunt now? She and others back their words of welcome to you with their sincere words of prayer for you. A CCFL employee posted it on my blog and I started asking questions all over the place and then published the question. Im sorry you have experienced the pain you described and hope the best for you. You dont have to answer that. A Calvary Chapel member named Rodger Thomas was arrested that year and charged with repeatedly molesting a 15-year-old girl at a high school run by the church. I suffered many years after leaving this church. Andy & Barbara, I said earlier (and was alluding to these verses) in apocalyptic literature every time there is a mention of thrones, it is a heavenly scene and not an earthy scene. Documents show that Coral Springs cops sat on the accusations for months before dropping the inquiry without even interviewing Coy. I have to agree. I have heard the asst Pastors dont make a lot of $-maybe that will all change now. I admit that I on occasion, more often than Im comfortable with I struggle with trusting God. This is all speculation and I dont think MacArthur should do this kind of thing. Youre right. Jesus really dropped the ball. _____________________________________________________________________ Andy, you are completely wrong with this! His net worth has been growing significantly in 2020-2021. I dont give a rip if you allow this past the moderation phase or not! I had not heard it before today and I am glad I did. "That whole approach always ends up hiding pedophiles.". independent local journalism in Miami. Flynn, what else have you learned from Chuck Missler and your Schofield Bible?. Why do you express yourself behind screen names ? You represented well. So this is a serious question. You added the words SEVEN YEAR tribulation to that quote. Someone needs to tell so many of the poor men with ordinary jobs I have known throughout life who cheated anyways that they were breaking a stereotype. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. THIS IS DISGUSTING and not of God. None of us are in a position to throw stones, judge, or cast aspersions upon or condemn himonly God can. If the congregation projects their own meaning onto what moral failure meanswellthere are as many meanings as congregants and not a one really knows what happened. I hope you reconsider your life and realize there is a more excellent way to live which God wants to give you. Therefore the discussion is pointless. Lets wait and see how many women he defiled. The self-proclaimed Zig Ziglar of rap, Billy Delgado, is a Music Producer/Artist and Writer by day and sleeping pillow-drooler by night. Lust mixed with selfishness is one of the more toxic cocktails we can create. Or is it a place to intermingle the heathen with the saved? God forbid he get a real job like the rest of us. MLD, I see. I can document that. This is a muddled moshpit, and I dont think Almighty God is into screamo. When a mocker comes along it is real important for him to be smart and accurate with his mocking. Dont give the devil his way and cast stones. This website is, usually, dominated by people that hold to one very narrow view of eschatology. I would hope all even those closely associated and even directly hurt would dig deeply to not bring more disappointment to Christ by acting in a Unchristian like manner. The MLK trail transcript makes it clear from witness testimony that the MLK crime scene was barricaded by police within 2 minutes of King getting shot. Michael- The attacks you are receiving remind me of the attacks I got when I was at that church attempting to do good. He confessed to it. Because of their public persona, people like us are also passing judgement on her personal life. Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. Though having an affair is the most likely of the possibilities, there is NO factual confirmation of this and anybody reporting it as fact at this point is wrong. Though I am not a Calvinist you again caricature their views by your questions. Im learning all about a day in the life of MLD. Its up to God whether or not Bob Coy is restored to leadership of any kind and that is not on any one mans timetable or ratio. Grace Bible Church Plantation. (Judge Bailey didn't respond to messages from New Times to comment on this story.). He had no reason to suspect that Jake would be an alcoholic. RiBo wrote: The danger with the Calvary Chapel transformation Gospel is that it makes your walk and your fruit the evidence of your official saved-ness. We all do it. Michael, how would you feel if you are saying was known and left a cyber carbon print? "I was really hurt. Many months have gone by since then, and a few days ago I received a text from my friend in which she shared about Coys resignation/admitting to moral failure. Maybe more need to hear it. http://thelasthiker.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/pastor-bob-coy-the-church-adultery-consequences-and-grace/. Mega-churches always have such a high profile for scandal. The blog host has spent the week publishing positive, restorative articles after the news broke. Everyone does that, just with different things. "There were no other allegations," he says. Without right doctrine, it doesnt matter how well they were behaving. RiBo @ 145 Yes, all the more evidence that men are still sinners after they are savedthere is no transformationmen still sin in the same or different areas as before they were saved.. When we objectify we act as gods. CP reached out to Calvary Chapel for further comment but no response was received by press time. My best advice is to try a few, some you will leave saying I wont go back Some you will attend for a few weeks and get a feel for it. he could always go back to Vegas as a comedy act. You just have to be careful when looking for a church some of these churches teach that Calvinism garbage, like God had chosen some to go to hell and theres no such thing as free will for the nonbeliever, and the limited atonement nonsense that Jesus only died for the elect and not for the whole world, others teach replacement theology that God is through with the nation of Israel and we the church have replaced them and there are no more promises for Israel, but instead they apply to the church. 5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. There are 476 comments so far as I write this. Daniel 9:27And he will make a firm covenant with the many FOR ONE WEEK!, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate. , Filbertz Your argument is not with me but with Jesus who said they sit in Moses seat, Therefore pay attention to what they tell you and do it. I have no thoughts about his church pastors in that arena are a dime a dozen they can find some other untrained funny man to take his place.. But they do have these pills now. Coy and his family are OUR FAMILY IN CHRIST! My hypocrisy? awesome. Early life, education and early career. Its too much temptation, too much power, causes too much pride, etc. This megachurch has about 16,830 weekly visitors. That is a bummer about Chet. (It's unclear if he worked there.) And you can prove it. #469 Fidel dumped his own church to go back to CCFL because his church was failing. , ; - , - . Not good. Coy certainly paid a heavy price for his infidelity: His family has broken to pieces, and his chapels packed with thousands of adoring fans have been replaced with a half-full nightclub in Boca. Andrew, Michale requested that theological debates cease immediately, to let people here grieve if they so choose. We dont really know why God didnt send the Gospel message to most of humanity and we dont know why God doesnt make us sin no more when we are supposedly saved. Thats fair right? Flynn, You are a false teacher you said that your Bible said that the SEVEN YEAR tribulation will be. That is why Mark Davis & Clay heacocks leftthey saw this stuff and said enough is enough!. I dont think Ive ever seen this happen quite so quickly. [2] Ill note #10 as I update the article shortly. Sad, very sad because this affects many congregations, not just FTL. That person is praying for me? You only want those who will tell you how smart and how right you are? In 2003, John Flores, a pastor at Smith's flagship in Costa Mesa, was arrested for having sex with the 15-year-old daughter of another pastor. Why else would Mrs. Coy leave? Social Media Links-Reddit Facebook. She has worked with and directed women's ministries, including teaching and writing curriculum for ladies Bible studies in Ft. Lauderdale, FL where she lived for 25 years; as well as speaking . High profile and untouchable positions can only lead to catastrophic collapse like this. Is there a man here who would go over and console Coy at the expense of his sister. Its not slander to point out severe doctrinal errors. Mark, are you kidding? http://derekthornton71.blogspot.com/2014/04/fallen-king-cirian-war-saga-by-eric.html. He instructs and guides us into all truth, and seals us for the day of redemption. My ex CC pastor is following Coy in his vision of mult-sites and to me its just not a good vision at all especially when the pastor falls like this. The best article Ive read on the subject thus far! There are many Christian men who would not trade their happy monogamous marriages for the most beautiful women in the world. She'd never even told her family about the crimes. Like what he made his own brother do? If your understanding of the Bible has completely isolated you from the greater Body of Christ, it is safe to say you are misunderstanding it. November 14, 2017 Share the power. What else was I wrong about? Who cares about me now that Im not influential or important?. Debbie, Larrythe next few days are going to be very difficult for you. The two faced aspect of all of this. I was one who looked down at my nose at all things not CC for many years and time has shown me that CC is not the church of Philadelphia. It was failing, no one knew it because they were told and shown drawings of a new church in the works. He soon became known for building unique hot rods and in 1977 he opened his own shop, Hot Rods by Boyd, in Stanton, California. fscaduto, WELL PUT and that was precisely my point early on. He has bought out 7 churches in a small area and there is another church following in his footsteps also doing the same. http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/78354908268/nothing. Face reality how could he be in the word and not be under conviction ? Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. Skip Heitzig (born 1955) is the American founder and senior pastor of Calvary Church, a Calvary Chapel fellowship located in Albuquerque, New Mexico.External links. There should be no quick fix restorations. What are my options if the operation goes wrong? Neither Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, the movement's flagship, nor the Calvary Chapel Association returned messages from New Times seeking comment for this story. If so, what so called ministry does Bob demonstrate fidelity in that he can be restored to? Lorenzo is in great need to know about Jesus from the gospels. Thats rather incredible.. Bad choices can entrap us, but with God we can hope for healing in this situation. not to cast doubt on your reporting or professional abilities, but this is a serious allegation, and deserves all investigation and information gathering before any public news report is made regarding the particularities of Mr. Coys problemsand those should remain between he and his family in any event! Our reach is vast and includes TV programming, radio broadcast, video blog, podcast, digital music, and social media or print publishing resources. My anger and frustration with Bob today is finally slipping toward thoughts about those poor souls who have to listen to 3 services of unrelated sermons in order to make it to an afternoon meeting where sadness and disappointment will rule the day. 'Jesus Revolution' leaves out the tough stuff but gets the music right, Sacked chaplain to appeal after losing employment tribunal case. Indwelling our hearts, He gives new life to us, empowers and imparts gifts to us for service. , ; , . if youre wondering if Sharon is dead. LOL, go and pray about it. The consequences suffered by the fallen leader will be very instrumental to how the sheep, who are in this flock, respond when faced with their own similar temptations. I have seen the results of calvinism, on many unwary new believers, it seems these Calvinists have a difficult time preaching the gospel and winning converts after all those that God has chosen are already saved, but these Calvinists have no problem infiltrating the churches and stealing Gods sheep with their vain philosophies based on man, let no one spoil you Paul warned, and this Calvinist preterist teaching is a rotting festering leaven in the body of Christ today! Our goal is to help you along your discipleship journey and enjoy a full life as a follower of Christ.. He was the son of Joe Gibbs, a five-time NASCAR Cup Series championship winning owner and Pro Football Hall of Famer. Many comments by those who attend CCFL. I think I would be interested in other perspectives that the truth is part of the healing process. I have been lurking the past few days and your rabid attacks on Michael are evidence of your profound dissatisfaction with yourself and your need to project your own dissonance on him, me or others who you refuse to dialog with. Its pretty common knowledge. Especially when you twist the truth and cannot backup your allegations. I disagree with him on many points, but I will not slander him. When confronted with his sin he stepped down, he could have fought it or refused to step down as many have, but he didnt. From that inner circle of men trying to navigate this atrocityI really doubt they want everyone they have shared Christ with for years to hear the details about their beloved pastor???? They could not even think for themselves. I hope there is a place for restoration to ministry someday also, God has used this man in a mighty way in multitudes of lives.
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